Economic incentives do not work

Alex's picture

What we really need is to appeal to people's sense of right and wrong and foster altruism.

Like the Irish do: http://iht.com/articles/2008/01/31/europe/bags.php

Dfunk's picture

Thoughts:

First, my favorite quote from the article: "Now we're saving the environment, we're reducing litter and since we're not paying for bags it ultimately save money for us and that reduces the price of food for our customers."

Thoughts on plastic bags:
1. I get plastic bags from the grocer and reuse them. I scoop the cat litter box into them. So they only get reused once. So they still wind up in the trash eventually. We use cloth bags to cut down on how many plastic bags we get. (We used to have more than we could use.) I don't think cat litter is flushable and my cat is too old to learn to use the toilet. Anybody have a creative solution to eliminate our plastic bag demand?

2. The stats of plasic bag consumption are startling, especially in the context of just having watched The Story of Stuff. Growing up, I patronized a grocery store that charged you for bags whether paper or plastic. My family, and most families, brought their own paper bags to carry groceries home in. Paper bags were reused until they wore out. And every grocery store in the neighborhood would ask you if you wanted "paper or plastic." How come every grocer around here just tosses your stuff in a plastic bag (and by stuff, I mean three items per bag, max. WTF?) without giving you a choice?

Alex's picture

Easy

1. Eat the cat... resolves the litter issue, the food transportation issue and may even give you a nice pelt for your dragoncon costume. Don't forget to poop the cat in the toilet, though, or else we are back to square one (I forget if you are housebroken or not - something tells me you have relapses).

2. I usually say that I have my own bag, thank you. Yesterday I bought 2 croissants that had their own bread baggies, and the woman went to bag them again... I know how you feel because my life is a constant struggle too.

Dfunk's picture

1. I'm not going to grock

1. I'm not going to grock Bengal until he kicks it of natural causes. He's already 18.5. I figured I'll let him shoot for the guinness record for oldest cat.

2. Constant struggle? I assume that was sarcasm. I wasn't complaining so much as questioning. Just kind of, "Why did the paradigm shift?" Also, have you noticed that when somebody starts bagging your stuff in a plastic bag and you ask them not to, they usually throw that bag away because it's already been peeled of the stack?

ckdake's picture

1.

1. http://messybeast.com/longevity.htm

2. I take my big packpack to the store and let the cashier and bagger know before they start ringing up my things that I'll be bagging it myself. I never have these mysterious last minute "OMG theys bes baggins mys stuffs" problems that you both seem to have.

Teh Black Hole's picture

1. Old cat. 2. What about

1. Old cat.

2. What about produce? Why the hell do people put things like onions and potatoes in the clear plastic bags? Snap beans... ok I can see why on that... but potatoes? They're covered in dirt.

Stupefying Jones's picture

have you seen the

have you seen the individually wrapped potatoes? I just laughed when I saw them and wondered who would be stupid enough to pay extra for a shrink-wrapped potato. My old roommate, that's who.

ckdake's picture

individually wrapped slices

individually wrapped slices of american cheese. mmm..

But then there is this. *sigh*

Teh Black Hole's picture

Re: individually wrapped potatoes

Someone please tell me this is a joke.

Stupefying Jones's picture

http://www.nowpublic.com/indi

Alex's picture

If I don't finish my french fries

I individually wrap them in a layer of Reynolds wrap and one of aluminim foil, then I put them in a plastic bag then I put them in one of those disposable tupperware containers). I love day old french fries, and peeling them is such a thrill!

Alex's picture

Me?

Sarcasm? Never! I am earnest and sweet.

If you don't want to eat the cat, d'ya mind if I do? He is a bit past the kitten stage, but I am not playing poker so it will do.

Kudos if anyone knows the kitty poker reference.

Dfunk's picture

Not yet dammit!

Bengal will be grocked in fullness in due time. In the meantime, I'm collecting the fur from brushing him. We're going to spin it into yarn and maybe one day I'll have warm, fuzzy kitty socks or gloves or a hat or something.

Alex's picture

The fur thing is gross

but I do not doubt you are actually doing it.

I get loads of belly button lint. Since I like you, I'll save it for you too so one day you can also have gloves of a scarf. Do you prefer it with or without hair?

Dfunk's picture

Wharever

I fail to see how it's any more gross than doing the same thing with a sheep. The finished product will be washed.

And you can keep your lint. It doesn't keep you very warm, if your reaction to Atlanta winters is any indication, so it probably won't do me much good.

Alex's picture

Point taken

Donald or Jessica may want to weigh in with thoughts about their cat too.

IndyFan's picture

I thought it was called cat

I thought it was called cat hair, as in hairball.

Rebecca's picture

switch cat litter

swheatscoop is flushable as are a few others.

spiffyk's picture

Good flushable litter

http://www.worldsbestcatlitter.com/

I've been using it for 2ish years with no plumbing trouble so far. Downside: my dog likes to eat it.

ckdake's picture

hows that a downside? keep

hows that a downside? keep your house cat poo free and feed the dog with one great product!