i want to have a contest for those of us who rock a freewheel (even if it's just occasionally).
i propose a coasting contest. it'll be like a skid contest, but with no skidding. only coasting. i'm not sure how it will work exactly at this point, so i want some input.
i can tell you that it'll happen on marlbrook (in lake claire).
what i'm thinking is this: folks compete two at a time, and we do a single elimination sort of thing. people sprint over the crest of the hill, then after a certain point, no more pedaling is allowed. the rest of the race involves who can coast the fastest to the finish line at the bottom of the hill.
thoughts?
Fixies could go to if they
Fixies could go to if they clip out and let their bike do the rest of the work.
true
that might put the fixies at a disadvantage, though, having to clip out and everything.
but you're right. nobody's not un-disinvited.
all things equal
a finally-tuned fixed would win against a free wheel. the fixed gets some mechanical advantage from the angular momentum of the wheel, i think.
someone correct me on this. around the time i was learning stuff like this was when i flipped the bird to mechanical engineering.
i think fixed is screwed
forgetting about bearings...
freewheelers have the friction and spring force of two, maybe four pawls in their freewheel slowing them down.
fixies have:
the friction of the chain against ~30 teeth (say the chain engages half the teeth of chainring and cog and you're running a 46x16 = 23 + 8 teeth engaged)
the friction of every single link in the chain, which has a bazillion moving parts.
plus they have the friction of the bottom bracket bearings.
and if you want to get stupid about it, the spinning pedals are more drag.
i couldn't possibly get any
i couldn't possibly get any stupider about it.
Stone mountian would be a
Stone mountian would be a good place. Start at the top of a hill, no pedaling at all. Just clip in, and see who gets the furthest with no input of energy. So it then becomes a factor of weight and aerodynamics.
Rolldown tests are an easy way to test any "aero" changes that you make. ie, bars/deeper sectioned wheels etc.
If this event happens let me know.... I'll bring out my secret weapon bike...
No un-disinvited people... so penis wielding people can play too?!
probably depends
on the extent to which you will be "wielding" it at the race...
Seth would win hands down
just gather up that there kinetic energy, and keep going
Don't place your bets yet
there are others with a strong attraction to gravity.
You're going down Chimpy.
You're going down Chimpy.
Don't forget
that rolling resistance will be important as well. I wanna see a dura ace/campy record/phil wood battle. The ultimate comparison. Yes!
Don't forget
Your Tires are Over-Inflated!!!
The final showdown!!!
Big difference between
Big difference between fastest and furthest. Categories?
What about speed when you
What about speed when you crest the hill? That would add to the available energy. I say start from dead stop at the top of a hill.
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you really don't want all 60 kg of me to win, do you? At least give me a chance...haha
60 kg Ha!
I got chunks bigger than that in my stool.
you're full of surprises
you know, jeff, somehow i always have it in my mind that you're older, wiser, and more mature than the rest of us. i guess all that really means, though, is that you use words like "stool" instead of "poop".
Sometimes just older
Paraphrasing a skit on Saturday Night Live, Phil Hartman does an impression of Frank Sinatra, with Billy Idol (played by Sting):
Billy Idol: I think you're a bloody, stupid old fart!
Frank Sinatra: You're all talk, blondie! You want a piece of me? I'm right here!
Billy Idol: Don't provoke me, old man.
Frank Sinatra: You don't scare me. I've got chunks of guys like you in my stool!
Billy Idol: Alright, I'll rip your bloody head off.
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/90/90ksinatra.phtml
this is why i'm saying we sprint first
if everybody started from a dead stop, then giants like you would win! if there's an element of sprinting involved too, then it's based on more than just weight and aerodynamics.
we could do several categories...
hah
to make this fair at all, i say start from the bottom of the hill and CLIMB, then coast down the other side.
the lighter riders with have an easier time up and probably have a greater initial velocity at the top, but they'll have less mass coming down the other side.
yes
i like this idea.
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me too.
Stone Mountain Park...
The climb going up towards the conference center from the playground then past the dam on the lake would be challenging and a pretty good profile for this event. There is a flat run-out as the road crosses the dam followed by another hill. (Outside loop going backwards, also the TdG route this summer.)
ooooh I'm a fatty, I bet I
ooooh I'm a fatty, I bet I could stomp some of the ladies around here... if I could make it over the hill. *wheeze*
Resistance is futile.
Resistance is futile.
Tell that to a headwind.
Tell that to a headwind.
i'd rather talk to teh
i'd rather talk to teh highwind.
the thing about stone mtn
i am not opposed to doing this at stone mountain, but i was also thinking it would be better to do this somewhere intown, so as to get as many people involved as possible.
thoughts?
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E. Morningside!
hm
i thought about this. it's good and long. the thing is, there's traffic. the nice thing about doing it on a street in lake claire is (a) it's a steep little hill, and (b) there's just one stop sign at the bottom. so if we put somebody down at the stop sign to keep folks from interfering when the racers come down the hill, we can avoid having to deal with cars altogether.
How much does the pucker
How much does the pucker factor affect terminal velocity?
What about the hill down
What about the hill down Clifton going towards Briarcliff?
that's a darn good hill
but again, the issue is traffic. then again, traffic might make things more interesting...
a much more fair coasting contest idea.
fuck a hill. flat ground. sprint to a line, and then no more pedaling after that line. see how far you can go without pedaling before you stop. then, its more about you and your control of yr bike and less about your fat ass and gravitys love for it.
Reminds me of the old Compulsory figures in skating...
Yawn...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_figures
an even more fairer coasting contest idea
don't compete at all! winner is decided by distance covered in roflcopter.
or
or who survives the impending lolacaust
weight handicaps, the only
weight handicaps, the only way. combined bike/rider weight handicaps. or several weight classes, otherwise the big dudes will always win.